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Is Joe gaining traction with Dual Survival viewers?

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A greater number of positive Huliq commenters came to Joe's defense after last week's episode of Dual Survival; will that fan base continue to grow this season?

It’s another week on the Discovery Channel’s Dual Survival; how are fans settling in with the new partnership of Cody and Joe?

Huliq readers continue to debate the new dynamic in the partnership, and many are still wary of the more military, less survivalist feel of the episodes thus far. Last week’s episode gave fans a chance to see Joe “take point” in the South African bush, but some fans did not necessarily react as Discovery may have hoped. Fans of the show commented on Huliq article, “Joe ‘takes point’ in South African bush, Dual Survival fans react,” and they were blunt:

Reader Pipip thought Joe was, well, not such a nice guy, saying, “Joe is just mean. And for all his military training, he couldn't even kill a catfish. Cody had to do it.”

But, other fans liked what they saw, such as non-embellishing veteran, who disagreed with the negative reviews, saying, “I can actually watch this show now. It's far better with Cody & Joe! I've always liked Cody but I somehow had a feeling when Dave spoke he was just full of crap...guess I was right! Keep up the good work guys, hoo-yah!!”

Fans Liking What They See?

Reader Kate said she liked the look of the new host: “I thought last night's show was excellent....especially when Joe took off his shirt...what a chest!!!!”

But, others, like commenter magman, thought the obvious attempt to pull in female viewers via Joe’s manly attributes was rather cheesy: “It's good to see that Joe was allowed to go back to the Travel Lodge at night in order to shave his belly.... Is there nothing about this man that is not embarrassing??”

New Viewers in the Mix

One anonymous commenter thought the naysayers would keep watching, along with new fans who will enjoy the military vibe now going on with the show: “It seems because of Joe's background he seems to be picking up more fans that are ex or still military. Those people that want to blast the show are still going to watch so they can blast the show, meanwhile Joe will add to the fan base.”

Reader Archer, however, appeared to believe that what Discovery may be gaining in new viewers, it is losing in loyal fans: “Picking up new fans perhaps, but he's driving out the old ones by the drove. As a long time TV watcher I know full well that problems that arise from suddenly changing out a character or actor. Fans are resistant to change yes, but there are other factors at work here in this case.”

Is Support for Joe Growing Overall?

So, while there are still negative comments to be sure, fans who support the change, or who are at least still open to the possibilities of the new season, are beginning to trickle in with their support. Will that support continue to grow as the season goes forward? Tonight, fans will again see more of Joe in the spotlight, according to Discovery Channel’s description of tonight’s episode:

Deep in New Mexico's Chihuahuan Desert, Joe struggles to get out of an abandoned mineshaft. A deadly western diamondback rattlesnake becomes dinner, and a maggot-infested cow carcass puts the team's opposing survival tactics to the test.

Stay tuned.

Dual Survival airs on the Discovery Channel on Tuesday nights at 9/8c.

UPDATED: Did Cody, Joe turn trust-building corner in Hawaii?

Image: Discovery Channel

Video: Discovery Channel/Dual Survival

Comments

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Ok, Here is the description of the show. There is a KEY word here : DEMONSTRATE. Demonstrate and teach are 2 different things. None know this better than Cody Lundin and Joseph Teti, who take on some of the planet's most unforgiving terrain to demonstrate, in their own way, how the right skills and some creative thinking can keep you alive. Together, with their drastically different backgrounds, the survivalists are dropped into a scenario that could happen to anyone: marooned boaters, lost hikers, stranded mountain climbers. Equipped with minimal gear that would have been carried in the real-life situations, Lundin and Teti must draw upon their arsenal of skills to devise extraordinary ways to use what they can find in their surroundings, as well as ordinary objects, and demonstrate what it takes to stay alive" Where does it say Cody and Joe are going to teach you how to survive? Hint.. It Doe NOT. The problem, Archer, is that your expectations are not being met. You are expecting to have your handheld and instructed via an entertaining demonstration of skills and knowledge television show. You can look various subjects up on YouTube or take a survival course in order to get that. You say Joe hasn't explained anything. I think you have selective hearing. Did you not pay attention when he rigged the parachute to climb down and the usefulness of your reserve chute in a hang-up situation? I don't get your point about how dangerous pigs are or are not. I DO know that they are dangerous BUT can be brought down if you posess the experience of bringing pigs down. I thought he did a great job getting Cody something to eat while Cody played housemaid getting the kitchen ready. As far credentials are concerned, someone with Joe's credential are worth alot more than the paper they are written on. The fact is this...YOU NEED people like Joe Teti and all of the OTHERS in SF, MARSOC, DELTA and DEVGRU. The work they do allows you to express your 'groupie' opinion on boards like this. You should also know this..Greens Berets are FORCE MULTIPLIERS...Arguably they are the best teachers in the Military. Reread the intent of the show and watch the intro videos about what Joe DOES bring to the show. But then, you won't have anything to complain about because Joe is bringing to the show exactly what he was asked to.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Where did you get "Demonstrate" as the only description of the show? From the Discovery website: Dual Survival's Cody Lundin and Joe Teti show how the right skills and creative thinking can keep you alive in the planets most unforgiving places". Key words here: "keep you alive". Cody and Joe wouldn't put themselves into those scenarios without being prepared. This is about everyday people put into these scenarios. You said it yourself, Cody and Joe are put into scenario's that could happen to anyone. They draw upon their expertise to demonstrate what it takes to stay alive. How is that not teaching? When a school teacher demonstrates how to do a math problem is that not teaching? Teaching somebody something usually requires you to demonstrate it first. Cody taught me how to make a fire rubbing two sticks together by first demonstrating how to do it. The whole basis of the show is teaching you skills you didn't know about or how to use things you didn't think about to help you survive if you happened to be a marooned boater or lost hiker. I think YOU are the one who needs to re-think the intent of the show and what it means to demonstrate and teach. Hint: The show does TEACH you how to survive by demonstrating skills and creative thinking.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
OK, I get it. You don't like Joe. You Love Dave and Cody. I heard enough Cody's the best fire maker in the world, teacher, conservationist etc. Dave, despite his perhaps stolen valor, is the best woodsmen in the world.Blah, Blah, Blah...................

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Hello McFly, anyone home? Tell me where I said anything about not liking Joe. Tell me where I even mention the word "Dave". I tried to TEACH you something but you just DEMONSTRATED your ignorance. I think you may have a problem with selective reading, please have someone read these posts for you.

Submitted by Archer (not verified) on
Uh, again, look back at my previous messages, my point has always remaind the same dude/dudette. The point of the show is to teach skills and techniques the average person could use to survive various situations. Remember back in season 2 (I think) where Cody and Dave were playing the part of a bug collector that only had a few basic items, the main being sample collection containers? Tell me, how many scientest/bug collectors do you know who have extensive military training? The single most dangrous thing (note I said dangrous, not stupid) Dave ever did was make a snow anchor to climb down a cliffside due to lacking proper anchore equipment. While this is fairly dangrous, its still pretty simple to figure out the mechanics behind. Partly because its so basic, but mostly because they spent about four minutes showing exactly how to do it. Your own comment however, and I quote: Did you not pay attention when he rigged the parachute to climb down and the usefulness of your reserve chute in a hang-up situation? I don't get your point about how dangerous pigs are or are not. I DO know that they are dangerous BUT can be brought down if you posess the experience of bringing pigs down. Yes, I was paying attention, but at the same time I would NEVER do anything like that, and for a number of reasons not the least which of being my inability to duplicate them. I'm nowhere near as physically fit as Joe (or Dave, or Cody for that matter) so the fact remains what little Joe has done that we have sufficent instruction to duplicate, is still beyond the physical capability of 75% of Americans, and I'd be willing to be at least 60% of the rest of the worlds population. Also you yourself admitted that 'pigs arent dangrous is you know what you're doing'. Well, I sure as heck dont and wouldnt know what to do in that situation. So again, useless as far as myself (and a good number of other people) are concerned. If I want to watch a show where people in great shape do things I have no prayer of ever doing, I'll change the channel over to Spike and watch Ninja Warrior.

Submitted by Archer (not verified) on
Uh, again, look back at my previous messages, my point has always remaind the same dude/dudette. The point of the show is to teach skills and techniques the average person could use to survive various situations. Remember back in season 2 (I think) where Cody and Dave were playing the part of a bug collector that only had a few basic items, the main being sample collection containers? Tell me, how many scientest/bug collectors do you know who have extensive military training? The single most dangrous thing (note I said dangrous, not stupid) Dave ever did was make a snow anchor to climb down a cliffside due to lacking proper anchore equipment. While this is fairly dangrous, its still pretty simple to figure out the mechanics behind. Partly because its so basic, but mostly because they spent about four minutes showing exactly how to do it. Your own comment however, and I quote: Did you not pay attention when he rigged the parachute to climb down and the usefulness of your reserve chute in a hang-up situation? I don't get your point about how dangerous pigs are or are not. I DO know that they are dangerous BUT can be brought down if you posess the experience of bringing pigs down. Yes, I was paying attention, but at the same time I would NEVER do anything like that, and for a number of reasons not the least which of being my inability to duplicate them. I'm nowhere near as physically fit as Joe (or Dave, or Cody for that matter) so the fact remains what little Joe has done that we have sufficent instruction to duplicate, is still beyond the physical capability of 75% of Americans, and I'd be willing to be at least 60% of the rest of the worlds population. Also you yourself admitted that 'pigs arent dangrous is you know what you're doing'. Well, I sure as heck dont and wouldnt know what to do in that situation. So again, useless as far as myself (and a good number of other people) are concerned. If I want to watch a show where people in great shape do things I have no prayer of ever doing, I'll change the channel over to Spike and watch Ninja Warrior.

Submitted by Archer (not verified) on
Uh, again, look back at my previous messages, my point has always remaind the same dude/dudette. The point of the show is to teach skills and techniques the average person could use to survive various situations. Remember back in season 2 (I think) where Cody and Dave were playing the part of a bug collector that only had a few basic items, the main being sample collection containers? Tell me, how many scientest/bug collectors do you know who have extensive military training? The single most dangrous thing (note I said dangrous, not stupid) Dave ever did was make a snow anchor to climb down a cliffside due to lacking proper anchore equipment. While this is fairly dangrous, its still pretty simple to figure out the mechanics behind. Partly because its so basic, but mostly because they spent about four minutes showing exactly how to do it. Your own comment however, and I quote: Did you not pay attention when he rigged the parachute to climb down and the usefulness of your reserve chute in a hang-up situation? I don't get your point about how dangerous pigs are or are not. I DO know that they are dangerous BUT can be brought down if you posess the experience of bringing pigs down. Yes, I was paying attention, but at the same time I would NEVER do anything like that, and for a number of reasons not the least which of being my inability to duplicate them. I'm nowhere near as physically fit as Joe (or Dave, or Cody for that matter) so the fact remains what little Joe has done that we have sufficent instruction to duplicate, is still beyond the physical capability of 75% of Americans, and I'd be willing to be at least 60% of the rest of the worlds population. Also you yourself admitted that 'pigs arent dangrous is you know what you're doing'. Well, I sure as heck dont and wouldnt know what to do in that situation. So again, useless as far as myself (and a good number of other people) are concerned. If I want to watch a show where people in great shape do things I have no prayer of ever doing, I'll change the channel over to Spike and watch Ninja Warrior.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I didnt say pigs 'arent' dangerous. Maybe the 40lb piglet Dave killed on his episode wasn't but the wild ferocious boar that was tearing the bark off the tree's that Joe had to subdue and kill to provide Cody some food was clearly dangerous. Also, it wasn't a feral piglet or prop put out by discovery. Joe's the man.

Submitted by Dual Fan (not verified) on
That retarded pig scene pretty much did the series in for me, the producers are clearly going for Joe as the bad ass "ultimate warrior" so as to suck in all the teen fanboys enthralled by anything called special ops. That said, at least Joe seems like a decent guy...Cody has become virtually intolerable, maybe because now he is the veteran of the show and Joe is the new guy. I dont know, but the chemistry was 10x better with Dave and Cody....and Dave is obviously far superior to either of these guys when it comes to true woodman's skills.

Submitted by Dual Fan (not verified) on
That retarded pig scene pretty much did the series in for me, the producers are clearly going for Joe as the bad ass "ultimate warrior" so as to suck in all the teen fanboys enthralled by anything called special ops. That said, at least Joe seems like a decent guy...Cody has become virtually intolerable, maybe because now he is the veteran of the show and Joe is the new guy. I dont know, but the chemistry was 10x better with Dave and Cody....and Dave is obviously far superior to either of these guys when it comes to true woodman's skills.

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