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Is Joe gaining traction with Dual Survival viewers?

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A greater number of positive Huliq commenters came to Joe's defense after last week's episode of Dual Survival; will that fan base continue to grow this season?

It’s another week on the Discovery Channel’s Dual Survival; how are fans settling in with the new partnership of Cody and Joe?

Huliq readers continue to debate the new dynamic in the partnership, and many are still wary of the more military, less survivalist feel of the episodes thus far. Last week’s episode gave fans a chance to see Joe “take point” in the South African bush, but some fans did not necessarily react as Discovery may have hoped. Fans of the show commented on Huliq article, “Joe ‘takes point’ in South African bush, Dual Survival fans react,” and they were blunt:

Reader Pipip thought Joe was, well, not such a nice guy, saying, “Joe is just mean. And for all his military training, he couldn't even kill a catfish. Cody had to do it.”

But, other fans liked what they saw, such as non-embellishing veteran, who disagreed with the negative reviews, saying, “I can actually watch this show now. It's far better with Cody & Joe! I've always liked Cody but I somehow had a feeling when Dave spoke he was just full of crap...guess I was right! Keep up the good work guys, hoo-yah!!”

Fans Liking What They See?

Reader Kate said she liked the look of the new host: “I thought last night's show was excellent....especially when Joe took off his shirt...what a chest!!!!”

But, others, like commenter magman, thought the obvious attempt to pull in female viewers via Joe’s manly attributes was rather cheesy: “It's good to see that Joe was allowed to go back to the Travel Lodge at night in order to shave his belly.... Is there nothing about this man that is not embarrassing??”

New Viewers in the Mix

One anonymous commenter thought the naysayers would keep watching, along with new fans who will enjoy the military vibe now going on with the show: “It seems because of Joe's background he seems to be picking up more fans that are ex or still military. Those people that want to blast the show are still going to watch so they can blast the show, meanwhile Joe will add to the fan base.”

Reader Archer, however, appeared to believe that what Discovery may be gaining in new viewers, it is losing in loyal fans: “Picking up new fans perhaps, but he's driving out the old ones by the drove. As a long time TV watcher I know full well that problems that arise from suddenly changing out a character or actor. Fans are resistant to change yes, but there are other factors at work here in this case.”

Is Support for Joe Growing Overall?

So, while there are still negative comments to be sure, fans who support the change, or who are at least still open to the possibilities of the new season, are beginning to trickle in with their support. Will that support continue to grow as the season goes forward? Tonight, fans will again see more of Joe in the spotlight, according to Discovery Channel’s description of tonight’s episode:

Deep in New Mexico's Chihuahuan Desert, Joe struggles to get out of an abandoned mineshaft. A deadly western diamondback rattlesnake becomes dinner, and a maggot-infested cow carcass puts the team's opposing survival tactics to the test.

Stay tuned.

Dual Survival airs on the Discovery Channel on Tuesday nights at 9/8c.

UPDATED: Did Cody, Joe turn trust-building corner in Hawaii?

Image: Discovery Channel

Video: Discovery Channel/Dual Survival


Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Well, he said he wasn't!! He problably just drank the wrong urine...

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I enjoyed the previous seasons with Dave Canterbury very much. I never missed an episode and watched the reruns constantly. I thought the rapport between Dave & Cody worked and I learned a lot, even for a tv show. I’m very disappointed that Dave is no longer with the show. I watched the 1st episode of the new season and do not care for Dave’s replacement. I have made the decision to not watch the show any longer. In fact, there is very little on the Discovery Channel that interests me. Amish Mafia, Moonshiners are trash (along with several others)– are you people kidding? What has happened to the Discovery Channel? Anyway, I would gladly watch Dual Survival again if Dave were to return. Thanks - Mike

Submitted by geosmdavic (not verified) on
Did anyone else notice that joe was a fish out of water playing with that snake.. This is another example of how Dave knew more th this guy.. If you remember the episode "bogged down" I think it was when then were in then La swaps Dave was picking up the cotton mouth snakes.. I live near there and I can tell you those are pretty bad little snakes and Dave had the balls to pick them up.. Also what we finally got to see the whole dead cow carving and I was curious if they ever used any of the stuff they collected.. And that would be a be negative.. It just goes to show you this has turned into a movie prop show.. Also has anyone else noticed that Joe is the only one doing the art of self reliance. It's like discovery is ramming him down our throats. It's funny last nights art of self reliance was about putting pebbles in your mouth to keep it moist.. He should have learn that trick before he drank his pee.. He is just a bad actor period.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
It's another example of how Joe didn't deal with Rattle Snakes in Afghanistan. He NEVER claimed to be and outdoor survival expert. Neither did discovery. You probably think Cody has all these facts about the terrain/lovation in his immediate head. That he doesn't look stuff up before he's on location. I think you all believe hes a walking encyclopedia of knowledge.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
Did you also like how Cody or rather "Edith" stood around and laughed at Joe while he was handling the situation. Do you remember how Joe was the one that wen to get the ice for water in episode one. Can you imagine if Joe was standing around laughing and spouting off some garbage that sounds intelligent while Cody was bringing home the bacon? All you Cody lovers would have a field day thrashing Joe. Cody ate the snake though, didn't he? I will give credit to cody. He can make fire and build a shelter if necessary.

Submitted by Archer (not verified) on
No you are correct that Joe doesnt stand and laugh at Cody, namely because Cody generally doesnt do anything dumb enough to warrent being laughed at. Not counting the whole barefoot hippy thing. If you think back for a minute, you'll recall that Cody had no problem calling Dave out when he did something stupid. One of my favorite moments in the series to this day is still Cody's little assessment of actions/consiquences pertaining to taking honey from wild bee's. 'Dumb ass actions, lead to dumb ass consiquences. Its the cycle of nature.' Also keep in mind that Cody knew at minimum Dave was experenced and knew what he was doing when it came to snakes. Dave lied about his military background yes, but not the 'Woodsmen' part of his title card. When you see someone doing something dangrous, that they have no knowldge or skill at dealing with (not to mention busness) then you are completly in the right to laugh at them provided you have given them fair warning AND they have aknowldged you warned them ahead of time. Reason being? The before mentioned quote says it all.

Submitted by photomercenary (not verified) on
Yes and don't forget early in the episode Cody explains that when you check under rocks and debris for snakes and whatnot, to always lift the opposite side of the rock (the farthest edge from your body) so you have an extra split second to react should something jump out. A few minutes later we see Joe doing the exact opposite--peaking under the board and lifting it up on the near side (and this was AFTER he heard the sound of the snake's rattle, lol) to reveal the snake that he ended up killing. Joe's got heart and he'll get it done, but he's just so wreckless and does things that are high risk (and perhaps unnecessarily so) in a survival situation. Joe and Cody are on two different pages, there's survival and EXTREME survival, Cody paces himself (rest in the desert heat, walk when it's cooler) Joe is heavy on the gas, go, go, go--even if it isn't necessary to rush things. In a high risk situation Joe is a great guy to have around, but in a low risk situation Joe is a liability doing high risk things that he really doesn't have to. I'm still wondering what he was planning to do with the rotten cow hide and maggoty rancid horns, other than throw them in the back of the rescue vehicle (unused, of course) at the end of the episode. Good analogy about Dave and the bee hive, though. It was kinda the exact same scenario.

Submitted by Sarge47 (not verified) on
1st, I don't watch this show for Joe T., I watch it for Cody. I have a copy of his book and he was kind enough to answer some questions about it via e-mail for our survival forum that I moderate. 2nd, Major kudos to Joe for his service to our country assuming that he really did it. I believe that he did as Discovery wouldn't dare risk another embarrassing incident like they had with Dave C who., btw, runs the Pathfinder School in Ohio and has over 500 YouTube videos on survival. However, falsifying your military record is a federal offense, so he's pretty lucky nobody pressed charges. 3rd, Joe's piss in his mouth was totally absurd, disgusting, and uncalled for! They DON"T teach that in any of the military courses that he claims to have taken, I've thoroughly researched that fact, more than likely some producer wanted him to do that. In the New Mexico episode that aired last night,(1/16/2013) Joe talked about how the Apache Indians used to place small pebbles in their mouths and sucked on them to generate saliva, so if Joe already knew that he could have used that method to get himself going. NOTE: Cody didn't put piss in his mouth and made it through just fine, and he's never had Joe's training! I did learn something from Joe while watching the Africa episode, if retired solders don't take good care of themselves they will soon develop a paunch! In a couple of years, if Joe's not careful, Cody will look pretty slim alongside of him! As for Joe ordering Cody around, note how Cody uses logical questions to get Joe to come around to his way of thinking without a confrontation. Pretty smart I think. I also believe that, like the poachers and gear that they find, even the banter/arguing is scripted and staged. If Joe's not careful, before too long HE'LL be walking barefoot, letting his hair grow out long and braided, and acting like a bush hippy! ;O)

Submitted by Gen X (not verified) on
When I watched Dave and Cody, I felt inspired. I built a BOB. I made fire safety plans. I went camping on my own (with less stuff). I felt and was prepared. Dave was every man. He made me feel like me, a girl wearing mascara and singing Britney Spears songs, could do it and because of him - guess what? - I did. I can use tools, make fire, build a shelter. I can do it. By myself. On my own. It just floored me and I've never been so proud.. He knew what he was doing and because of him so do I. New guy? Not so much. Just another show-off trying to make himself (and by comparison Cody) look good. It's not teaching me anything. The only thing Season 3's done so far is make a Les Stroud girl now. Les, it seems, really is more. We miss you, Dave. Keep up the good work with Pathfinders and the YouTube channel. Les? Please don't go anywhere. You're all the sensible on tv we have now. :(

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
except Joe is currently not the everyday man. He's the genuine article. I'd bet the military recruiters have had a flux of recruits showing up at their door after watching an episode or 2 of the new Dual Survival. If you look at Joe's website he states how he was nothing of note, athletically, in high school. He then joined the military, the marine corps, and became this super commando. What an inspiration to kids and young adults. Joe depicts the power of US Spec Ops training, mentality, the American will to suceed and Survive against the odds. Joe has inspired those with doubt about serving our country to take the challenge and preserve our freedom of speech and all our liberties many take for granted. Personally, I see how Dave appeals to a certain segment of the population given the current state of affairs. The everybody gets a medal, feel good, nicey nice generation and their parents. Lastly, If feel you are so out of shape and unfit, why would you need to learn these extreme survival skills? You really wouldn't put yourself in a situation where you needed to guard yourself from lions or african poachers. let alone, rapell down a rock face. I say, if you really need survival skills, Take a class, read firefox, search youtube etc. and then watch how a real professsional like Joe teti puts textbook material into action.


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