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Joe 'takes point' in South African bush, Dual Survival fans react

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Last night's episode of Dual Survival gave Joe Teti a chance to shine, but were fans convinced that he is a positive addition to the Discovery Channel show?

Dual Survival is now firmly in Season Three, with the second episode of the regular season airing last night. Fans had an opportunity to see Joe’s military training kick in and take charge, and get a taste of what he adds to the team. But, were fans impressed?

Cody appeared to be out of his element for the most part in South African bush country. Oh, as he said once again, he loves the desert. But, with big game—lions, leopards, elephants, rhinos and hippos—circling around, and phantom poachers in the area, there is no doubt that he was out of his typical survival comfort zone. Cody is adept at fighting—or working with—Mother Nature; eluding poachers and hiding from rhinoceroses just did not appear to be his forte. So, one would imagine that he was glad to have Joe and his training along on the trip.

But, were fans glad Joe was along to “take point” as he vocalized again and again and, yes, again?

No Longer for 'Everyman'

Buzzing about Huliq has not, at this time, been in favor of Joe’s performance, as disgruntled fans express their opinions on various articles already on the site. Specifically, the main grumbling appears to be that the show was once viewed as an everyday-man survivalist show; now, the harder edge, military calculations and evasive actions are not striking Dual Survival fans as accessible for “real” people.

“I found the new show with Joe upsetting to watch because Joe is more of a trained killer, more so bulling his way through nature in a destructive manner rather than respecting it,” Huliq reader Ken commented. “At least Dave was willing to compromise with Cody and I think they did respect one another. Btw Cody’s survival techniques are superlative to the soldiers and Joe’s skills are more appropriate for battle. I was looking forward to the new guy but after watching I would rather watch Cody and a hunter.”

“I don't get it,” commented geosmdavic. “Is it dual survival or dual military tactics. Joe has ruined a great show. I may not watch it anymore after this one. Joe is not a teacher at all. … So again I ask you guys at Dual Survival are you guy going to get back to teaching us something or is just going to just another show on Discovery. … I think Discovery should have a vote to see if Joe stay or Dave should come back!!!!”

No Brotherly Love in Arguments

Many viewers are uncomfortable with the dynamic going on between Cody and Joe at this point, as well. Whereas the arguments that were always occurring between Dave and Cody seemed more “brotherly,” always tempered with a mutual respect, the arguments between Cody and Joe are striking the viewing audience as harsh, uncomfortable and, most of all, disrespectful.

“No respect for each other,” Fallnhorse said, cutting right to the chase after watching the new episode last night. “Cody and Dave use to disagree but not be disagreeable. Joe and Cody show no respect for each other. If they were truly depending on each other to survive they would fail. I have learned nothing this season from this show, the old shows were informative. There is too much arguing and contempt. … The chemistry is gone and mutual respect is gone. It's time to shut down the show.”

Where Are the Joe Fans?

No doubt as the day and week goes on, those fans defending the new vibe of the show will speak out about the latest episode, as well. But, at the time of this writing, the overwhelming voice of the fans was loud, clear, and above all, unhappy.

Stay tuned.

Dual Survival airs on the Discovery Channel on Tuesday nights at 9/8c.

UPDATED: Did Cody, Joe turn trust-building corner in Hawaii?

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Submitted by Kate (not verified) on
I thought last night's show was excellent....especially when Joe took off his shirt...what a chest!!!!

Submitted by magman (not verified) on
It's good to see that Joe was allowed to go back to the Travel Lodge at night in order to shave his belly.... Is there nothing about this man that is not embarrassing??

Submitted by magman (not verified) on
I will not be watching this again. Why did Joe Teti want to be on a survival show when he hasn't got a clue about survival? He is utterly miscast and a joke.

Submitted by Dylan (not verified) on
My wife and I were laughing when Joe was walking around with his shirt unbuttoned, she said "he wants to be macho man Randy Savage.":)......But, wow, what a tool that guy is. He cant keep up with Cody's survival abilities. Joe parades around almost modeling for the camera. Its pretty sick. A nerdy gamer would of been a better choice then this guy, I think anyone else would at least listen and respect Cody!!!

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
What a one sided point of view lol. Apparently fans of the show are unwilling to change ie stubborn. Dave lied/embellished on his resume' and this went against what the network wanted and he was removed end of story, now move on! Apprenently, Joe is the type of counterpart for Cody that the producers of the show wanted. People should respect the fact that Joe has done so much for our/his country that very very few people ever will. It seems because of Joe's background he seems to be picking up more fans that are ex or still military. Those people that want to blast the show are still going to watch so they can blast the show, meanwhile Joe will add to the fan base.

Submitted by Archer (not verified) on
Picking up new fans perhaps, but he's driving out the old ones by the drove. As a long time tv watcher I know full well that problems that arise from suddenly changing out a character or actor. Fans are resistant to change yes, but there are other factors at work here in this case. Dave showed skills that everyday normal people could use. I for example, have no military training, very little outdoors experence (camping with friends and family in the mountians) but even I could make those traps he showed back in season 1 episode 1, and just from watching a few episodes (combined with a youtube video or two) I understand the basics of cleaning and prepairing things like rabbits or even field mice to eat. Joe on the other hand, I havent seen him do anything yet that I COULD do (as again, I'm nonmilitary and have limited survival skills) or WOULD do (I avoid animals that are at least a third my body weight). Trying to boost raitings with eye candy for the girls or attracting military/exmilitary is one thing, but at the very least the person should be able to SHOW actual survival skills and teach viewers those skills. You know, the premise and purpose of the show? My other gripe is that Joe just doesnt come off as the kind of person I would want to be stuck with in a survival situation. Cody? Yes, I wouldnt mind, I know he has skills and would do his best to keep both of us alive. Dave? Yes, pretty much the same as above, though I would be a bit less sure of my chances if fire were needed. Joe? No, for two reasons. First, I have yet to see any actual survival skills displayed. Second, I am 90% certian he would leave me to die if it would increase his odds of survival. That likely isnt the case for Joe, but thats what his personality leads me to believe from what I have seen so far.

Submitted by geosmdavic (not verified) on
I agree,joe is driving off the loyal fans that have been watching since day one. If they want to change the show fine change it ,change the name altogether. But right now they are ruining a great show with Joe on it.. My thought was instead of having this guy on here.. Get back to teaching us, have a guess survivor on the show someone who has no experience , and have real life stories when people died somehow. Stranded in the desert without gas in the car or whatever. Then let them teach us the right way to get out of it without getting killed..That's a real survivor show!!! But the show now, I keep waiting for him to break out a firearm and start blasting away.. I know I won't let my son watch it now cause of him. Until the day they either rein him in or get rid of him, He's loud mouth, disrespectful and I can't see anyone like him being in the military.. I just can't ..

Submitted by OutdoorJT (not verified) on
Right on, Archer!! Yes!! this is exactly the feeling that I had and that I couldn't pinpoint. Yes, I have the same uncomfortable feeling that in a real survival situation, Joe would have no problem going on his own and leaving you behind if he thought it would increase his survival chances. I feel terrible writing this, because I know this is not what he was taught in his military career, "no one left behind". However now that he's out, and given the fact that many times he has shown no problems getting separated from Cody so he could do his own things, I wouldn't trust him a bit. He feels too individualistic and selfish. I may actually put him up to number one on my list of predators to be wary of, if I was stuck with him!

Submitted by robb (not verified) on
I thought the new season was cool sometimes the same thing gets old I kind of like that the 2 aren't buddy buddy its a survival show not friendship hour. Cody is awesome and so was Dave and now it gets even better with Joe and his military perspective. It's a and I will continue and I will continue to watch it or Joe an Joe and Cody this is still cool show.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on
I have to admit, I couldn't watch Dual Survivor in the past although I gave it several tries. The show just could not keep my attention. I suppose it may have been the fact that Cody was the clear personality of the show and frankly, he's just too weird for me. To his credit, he does seem to be knowledgeable on unusual things. Cody is just too strange and just doesn't resonate with me although it's probably good for drawing a certain type of viewer. I never really understood Dave's military background although he genuinely seemed to be a nice guy. With Teti, we have someone that has really been there and done that for real. His real life experiences are unquestionably exciting and admirable. His TV personality, although gruff to some, has been carved out of live or die situations on how to really stay alive when the chips are down and when the country needs him. I am disappointed at the many naysayers when 99% of them would proudly admit of their military service whehter or not they never left the mainland and were admin personnell. Here, we have a credible warrior that knows how to stay alive, has accomplished more in defense of our country that only a few in history could have and here he takes heat from armchair survivalists who more than likely will never find themself in a situation where they need to defend themselves let alone a combat situation. Any one of Teti's military accomplishments are extraordinary in and of themselves: Marine Force Recon (This aint the boy scouts), Green Beret, Halo and Scuba qualified, SERE instructor etc. I now enjoy the show with the addition of a real American Hero.


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